Divorce Rich with Jacki Roessler, CDFA
Welcome to the Divorce Rich Podcast! Join your host, highly sought-after speaker and experienced Certified Divorce Financial Analyst, Jacki Roessler, CDFA in this engaging and down to earth show. Along with her guests, Jacki offers clear and detailed advice to improve your financial decisions before, during and after divorce so you can survive divorce rich! New episodes are posted every Thursday! You can reach Jacki through her Michigan-based firm, Roessler Divorce Consulting, located at 600 S. Adams, Suite 300, Birmingham, MI 48009 or by email at jacqueline@roesslerdivorce.com.
Divorce Rich with Jacki Roessler, CDFA
Starting Fresh after Divorce with Author, Barb Greenberg
Discover how Barb Greenberg transformed the heartbreak of a 33-year marriage ending into a powerful movement of hope and empowerment for women navigating the aftermath of divorce. This episode features Barb's extraordinary journey from personal turmoil to founding "Rediscovering U," an inspiring company that offers educational resources and a community of connection. Listeners will hear about the transformative impact of workshops and monthly gatherings that Barb hosts, where women share their experiences, gain confidence, and find solace in the collective strength of others who understand their path.
We'll also highlight the courageous stories of the women who attend these events, each one demonstrating resilience and bravery as they strive to improve their lives against the odds. These inspiring narratives underscore the profound impact of support and camaraderie in healing and personal growth. Through these shared experiences, we celebrate the incredible strength found in community, and we invite you to join us in recognizing the power of shared stories and collective healing. This episode is a heartfelt tribute to the resilience of women everywhere who are facing the complexities of divorce and choosing to rise above.
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Visit us at https://www.roesslerdivorce.com/ to learn more about Jacki's practice and to find valuable resources for your case.
Welcome to the Divorce Rich Podcast. I'm your host, jackie Ressler. I've been a certified divorce financial analyst for 28 years, helping clients and their attorneys navigate the often complex and confusing financial issues in divorce. If you're in the process of, or considering, divorce, now is the time for you to take a deep breath and give yourself permission to find clarity on the financial issues you're facing. Rich means many things to many people. I believe the best definition of being rich is someone who has access to many resources. Along with my guests on this podcast, I will be bringing you a wide variety of information so that you can make sound and informed financial decisions for your financial future.
Speaker 1:The episode you're about to listen to is a legacy episode. It's from my old podcast and I am so excited that I get to reshare it. It's an interview with author and entrepreneur Barb Greenberg, who took a miserable situation, a terrible divorce, and turned it into something for herself and for so many people. That is truly inspiring. I know that everyone listening is going to enjoy hearing this success story and I'm excited again that I get to share it. Barb was divorced after a 33-year marriage and was inspired after her divorce and during her recovery to try to reach out and help other people through what she had been through, and has been amazingly successful at it. She started a company called Rediscovering you, which we're going to talk about. She has written three books, with a fourth on the way, and we are so excited to have you here, par.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having me. I'm thrilled. This is going to be fun.
Speaker 1:What prompted you to try to help people go through their divorce?
Speaker 2:Well, during my divorce it felt like it was brownie. So when I felt like I was on dry land, I wanted to reach back and help other women get their footing again. So I did a few workshops and they were very heartwarming. It was wonderful. But I needed something more, and someone suggested I do something around food. So I'm good with that.
Speaker 2:So we found a restaurant that had a private room and we held a monthly dinner and we would bring in a guest speaker, and the first dinner we had how we always started was you could go around the table and share your story and it wasn't to whine, though that's really. We were in a wine room, a whine room, but it was what you said. It was a place where your voice was honored, your story was honored, what you said helped somebody else, and then everybody knew they were not alone. So our first speaker was a mediator, and that first night I turned to the waiter and I whispered how much longer can we be in the room? And he said well, the restaurant closed 20 minutes ago. So the whole group got up and walked into the parking lot and nobody wanted to disconnect from each other. It was such a powerful experience that I drove home and I was vibrating. I thought this is really important. So I started to do them monthly, with a different guest speaker every month.
Speaker 2:And then a family law attorney said you know, I'm rebranding my business and I'd like you to meet the woman that I'm working with. And I thought isn't that nice, they want my input. And I got to the meeting and they didn't want my input. They both turned to me and were like you need some help, honey. So they were the ones that rebranded us, rediscovering you, because I didn't even realize I had a business quite then. And then they also said you need to do weekly meetings instead of monthly. Monthly is too long a stretch in between. And I was like oh well, we can't afford to have dinner once a week. So I found another place that had a conference room and I just put chocolate kisses on the table for everybody. And how many women were in this first group? The first groups? There were maybe 10 or 12. And then, as the classes went on, sometimes there would be even two or four, which was like it was the perfect number Two or four people yeah number.
Speaker 2:You know yeah, and then, and then it there would be 11 or 12 and then it would go back. It would fluctuate all the time and at first I was like, oh, it's gotta be big. And then I realized no, no, no, sometimes when it's just those two people or three people, that's just who is supposed to be there. And even one gal said once. She said I wouldn't have shared what I'm sharing now if it was a bigger group and it was really important for her to say what she needed to say. So it doesn't. I realized it's not, that's not my call, you're not a therapist, right.
Speaker 1:So you didn't have any background in this, no, you just wanted to help other people because you thought that you had needed help. So when you were going through your divorce, there wasn't anywhere really to get this kind of support.
Speaker 2:No, in fact, if I would have had something like this, a resource like this, with education, support resources, I would have made much better decisions and I still would have agreed, but not for so long and so hard. It would have really affected how I moved through my divorce process and given me a lot more confidence. But they just don't know what to do and they're so scared People in the middle that are kind of splashing around and trying to hang on the best they can, and then people post-divorce. But there's still issues. In fact, this is one of my favorite images.
Speaker 2:We were sitting around the table one week and a new gal came in and she was so darling and sweet and she had, I think, two daughters and she said I know I need to leave. I know I need to leave, I don't think I can do it. She had Kleenex in her hand. She was trying not to cry uh, I, I, I just don't. I don't think I can do it, but I know I need to leave, uh. And the lady across the table from her reached over and patted her on the arm, and the lady across the table from her who was on the other side of her divorce patted her arm and said you can do it, you can do it. And then, which was lovely, and then what happened was a year went by and lady number one said oh my gosh, now I'm the one on the other side of the table reaching across patting somebody's arm and saying you can do it.
Speaker 2:So it's just a wonderful community. And people became friends. They never knew each other and I was like are you sure? You seem like you've known each other forever, so that it's just this wonderful safe, it's very safe, right, and where was this? This where? Where were you located? Um, we were in the Minneapolis area and the I no longer own the company I was on now on the fabulous woman who's still in the Minneapolis area, but she's reaching out all across the country. Covid sort of pushed that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, everybody changed their business model during COVID, so it's called Rediscovering you and that's the letter. U right Like university.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's like a university yeah.
Speaker 1:And you don't have to be in Minneapolis. If somebody wanted to go online and look that up, what kinds of resources could they find on there?
Speaker 2:And there's guidance, there's resources if you need a therapist, because therapists are now long distance. There's just so much. Once you start playing around in there, you'll find all sorts of things. So much, once you start playing around in there, you'll find all sorts of things. People, women are like hungry for somebody to hang on to, and it just it's I don't want to say magical, but there's an energy to it that you know, when women get together, you know when women get together, there's a thing that happens and support and encouragement, and you're okay. And you need to cry, that's fine, you can cry. And if you want to laugh, okay, you can laugh. Let's go get some ice cream or a cup of coffee and just it's part of a community that understands what you're going through yes, because?
Speaker 2:because people want to support you, but if they haven't gone through it, it's right they can't quite get it. You know, I had dear friends that had been married 50 years now, I think and they really tried to support me, but they just didn't.
Speaker 1:There's just something about talking to someone that's been through the same thing as you, the same trauma, that you recognize each other. It feels so good to find somebody else that has gone through what you're going through, because it feels hopeful that you're going to make it through too. Yes, let's talk about your book, the Seasons of Divorce, which I have a copy of and I love it. I love it because one it's extremely relatable for anyone who is going through a divorce or any kind of life transition. But I really love the way that it's set up. I love that it's got a few each little section is a mini bite sort of a little. A chapter might be one or two pages on really compelling topics that really ask your reader to stop and think about where they are in the process of this transition, in a slow way, so that it's not overwhelming. And I think after a divorce there are so many things that are overwhelming that I love the pacing of your book. When you wrote this, what type of person did you have in mind?
Speaker 2:what type of person did you have in mind, not just for women about women divorcing. This is wonderful for any woman because there's so much in it and I have a friend who she has been married, I think 50 years and she loves to journal and each section has like a little article with a few questions, three questions at the end of each article. And she said I've been using those for journaling prompts. I love your book because I use it for journaling prompts every day and there's something I discover about myself. So it's for anybody. Starting in the middle, when you're past it, it's just because the articles I don't think are all the little snippets, aren't all divorce but transition, you know so somebody who might be widowed?
Speaker 1:yeah, maybe even someone who's empty nester, whatever big life transition. Yeah, and so you and you mentioned to me that it's actually a collection of articles and blogs that you wrote. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:I had a I have a wonderful editor friend and she, yeah, and we had started a newsletter. Since we started a business, we started a newsletter and since we were holding classes weekly, we had to put out a newsletter weekly for the upcoming classes. She said you need to write an article every week for the newsletter and after I knocked my head against the wall a few times, I went okay.
Speaker 1:Every week is a lot.
Speaker 2:But it was a good discipline, and I had never in a million years thought I would write anything, and so it's interesting what happens during a divorce. These gifts kind of fall out of the sky. Yeah, something you never imagined you would do.
Speaker 1:You're doing a new career.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I love it. I'm like son of a gun. This is kind of fun. So. But this editor friend said you know, you need to put those articles into a book. More people need to see those articles. They're really good. And I went yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. And then Monserrat Gobanji go those articles, they need to go in a book. And I go those articles, they need to go in a book. And I go yeah, yeah, yeah. So that went on for quite a while.
Speaker 1:Well, we are going to have a link in our show notes for anyone that wants to buy the book, but we're also running a promotion with this episode. This is our first time doing this, so the first five listeners that give us a review on Apple Podcasts, all they have to do is take a screenshot of it and send it to us. We will send them a book your book for free as a thank you to them, and I wish that more people would again. I think your story is extraordinary because you act like it's just no big deal and you just went out and you did this. But it takes a lot to want to after going through something, to want to help people and then actually do it. So you know, I think that you're minimizing the amount of effort that you put into it, and I know our listeners can't see you because we are on just audio, but you have the warmest smile and you can tell that you get so much joy out of what you created.
Speaker 2:I really do. It's so interesting. I would have people go. Isn't it depressing what you're doing? I was like no, it's inspiring, because the women that come to our events want to heal, want to get better, want to find a way through this. They don't want to stay stuck. They have so much courage. They don't realize they have as much courage as they do, but they have so much courage and they just would inspire me every single week. Every single week.
Speaker 1:So thank you so much for being here with me. I loved our conversation. It's been such a pleasure and hopefully we can talk again sometime.
Speaker 2:That would be wonderful. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to listen to Divorce Rich Podcast. If you like this podcast, please follow us on Apple or anywhere that you download podcasts and share this link with any friends or family that you think might benefit from this information.
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